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امروز این خبر تکان دهنده استفاده شوک الکتریکی توسط پلیس دانشگاه UCLA برعلیه یک دانشجو (که ایرانی-آمریکایی هم هست) را دیدم. ویدیو اش تکاندهنده‌ است. اینکه یک آدم بی‌دفاع را که تنها جرمش این است که فراموش کرده کارت دانشجوییش را برای رفتن به کتابخانه در آخر شب بهمراه داشته‌باشد اینطور باهاش برخورد بشود واقعا تکان‌دهنده است. البته بهتر بود که در مقابل دستور پلیس مقاومت نمی‌کرد ولی این دلیل نمی‌شود که پلیس از شوک الکتریکی بر علیه طرف استفاده کند.

دیدن ویدیوی این واقعه مخصوصا همه دانشجویانی که در ویدیو در کنار ایستاده بودند و کار پلیس را با نفرت تماشا می‌کردند، یک فلش‌بک یک حادثه یازده‌ سال پیش را جلوی چشمم آورد. وقتی که دکتر سروش قرار بود در دانشگاه امیرکبیر سخنرانی بدهد و انصار حزب‌الله تهدید کرده‌بود که جلویش را خواهند گرفت. تعداد زیادی از دانشگاههای مختلف از شب پیش به دانشگاه امیرکبیر رفتند که با دفاع از آزادی بیان جلوی انصار را بگیرند. من کنجکاو هم فردا صبحش رفتم ببینم چه خبر است. دروازه دانشگاه توسط یک ردیف پلیس ضدشورش بسته‌شده بود و تمام دانشجوها در داخل زندانی شده‌بودند و هر از گاهی شعار می‌دادند. بیرون ردیف پلیسی که دم در دانشگاه بود انصار با وانت هایشان و بلندگو در خیابان حافظ بودند و شعار می‌دادند. در انتها هم کلی تماشاچی که اکثرا دانشجویانی مثل من بودند که از سر کنجکاوی و تا حدی هم همدلی با دانشجویان داخل دانشگاه آنجا رفته بودند. حدود یک ساعتی انصاریها شعار دادند. فکر کنم الله‌کرم هم سخنرانی کرد و سروش را به لیبرال بودن متهم کرد. این ماجرا قبل از آمدن خاتمی بود و الله کرم هنوز فرد آنقدر معروفی نبود برای همین خوب یادم نیست که او بود یا ده‌نمکی.

شباهت قضیه به ماجرای امروز اینجایش بود که یک دانشجوی شریف(عضو سابق انجمن اسلامی آنزمان) در کمال ناباوری همه ما نظاره‌گران به سراغ بلندگو بدست انصار رفت و از او خواست که حالا که آنها یک ساعت از پشت بلندگو هر چیزی خواسته‌اند گفته‌اند چند دقیقه هم بگذارد که او صحبت بکند. طرف انصاری هم گفت بلندگو می‌خواهی؟ بیا بگیرش و یک مشت مستقیم حواله کرد به صورت دانشجو. بعدش هم دانشجو را حلقه کردند و شروع کردن با مشت و لگد زدنش. بعضی‌هایشان زنجیرهم داشتند ولی نمی‌دانم که آیا با زنجیرهم می‌زدند یا نه. دانشجوی شریف کاملا بی‌دفاع یکی دو دقیقه‌ای از هفت هشت نفری که دورش بودند کتک می‌خورد. بلندگوچی هم مدام در بلندگو می‌گفت: «حزب‌الله درگیر نمی‌شه..حزب‌الله درگیر نمی‌شه...»

یادم نمی‌رود که صحنه آنقدر منزجرکننده بود که ما تماشاگرها با اینکه برای دردسر افتادن نیامده بودیم قدم به طرف انصار حزب‌اللهی‌ها برداشتیم تا طوری این فرد را نجات بدهیم. نیروی انتظامی هم تا دید ممکن است بدجور شلوغ بشود سرانجام باتون بدست ریخت و ملت را پراکنده کرد و دانشجوی شریف را دستگیر کرد. من و بقیه تماشاگران هم سریع زدیم به چاک. ظاهرا آنروز نیروی انتظامی چند نفری از دانشجوها را دستگیر کرد و بیشتر مورد ملاطفت قرارشان داد. اگر شما هم در آن ماجرا بودید در نظرات جزییات بیشتری بنویسید. چون یکی از وقایع مهم آن سالهای قبل دوم خرداد بود.

در مورد دانشجوی UCLA هم اگر در آمریکا هستید خوب است به Chancelor office
زنگ بزنید. شماره‌اش هست 3108252151 . من خودم زنگ زدم و گفتم که خواستار واکنش سریع دانشگاه در قبال این مساله هستم. ذهن خودتان را با اینکه ممکن است دانشجوی ایرانی هم مقصر بوده باشد مشغول نکنید. پلیس غلط کرده که شوک الکتریکی برعلیه یک دانشجو که تهدید برای کسی نیست استفاده می‌کند.

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Anonymous رها گفت:
مهدی جان، با عرض معذرت این چیزی که می خوام بنویسم ربطی به پست ات نداره اما چون آدرس ای میلت رو پیدا نکردم مجبور شدم این جا بنویسم.
من لوگوی بالاترین رو به وبلاگم اضافه کردم اما امروز که به وبلاگ لگوفیش رفتم دیدم یه نمونه ی ظریف تر و زیباترش رو (البته از نظر من) تو وبلاگ اش گذاشته. چه جوری می تونم شبیه اون رو داشته باشم؟ البته این رو از لگوفیش هم پرسیدم ولی خب...طاقت ندارم صبر کنم تا جواب بده، گفتم شاید تو (تا شور و شوق من فروکش نکرده)زودتر جواب بدی :)))

Blogger مهدی گفت:
می‌توانی اون تصویر را از لگو ماهی دانلود کنی (با کلیک دکمه سمت راست ماوس) بعد به عنوان یک تصویر روی سایت بلاگفا آپلودش کنی.

Blogger Sibil گفت:
Motherfuckers....I am calling now!!
I think we should also call the University Police....hell I am calling from Canada….and I will threaten the shit out of them...
Also I will call Sima now…I think she knows a whole bunch of lawyers….I’ll get back to you.

Anonymous Kamangir گفت:
واقعا یوتیوب معرکه کرده تو این داستان.

Blogger Sibil گفت:
Mehdi Jaan,
That is the Fax number.
Telephone: 310-825-2151

Blogger Sibil گفت:
مهدی جان...
من الان دو بار زنگ زدم به پليس بار اول به ازشون خواستم که توضيح بدن که من رو به پرس ريليسشون ارجاع دادند و بار دوم هم زنگ زدم و بد بيراه گفتم.
این اولاً پرس رليس پليس:
http://www.ucpd.ucla.edu/ucpd/zippdf/2006/Taser%2011-15-06.pdf
آقای رئيس هم تلفنشون مدام اشغاله ولی باز هم من زنگ می زنم....
فکر می کنم نامه و ايميل هم فکر خوبی باشه...
در ضمن به مردم هم بگو که گول این پرس ريليس ها رو نخورند خوک های کثيفی که پليس ها باشند هميشه به نفع سيستم خودشون رای صادر می کنند!

Blogger Sibil گفت:
آقای من الان زنگ زدم به این دفتر آقای رئيس و خوب يک بنده خدايی را آنجا گذاشته بودند که جواب مردم را بده.
من را فرستاد به وب سايت دانشگاه که اونجا دانشگاه کاملاً طرف پليس را گرفته و گفته که پليس داره تحقيق می کنه!
من بعد خيلی مودبانه داد و بيداد کردم که این مساله نمی تونه فقط توسط پليس تحقيق بشه و شما به عنوان رئيس دانشگاه (که البته این بنده خدا منشی بود) مسئوليد که يک تيم
تحقيقاتی مستقل همراه با حقوق دان های بی طرف استخدام کنيد و بايد از دانشجوتون حمايت کنيد. که خوب
همين طور که می دونی اینها الان مثل سگ ترسيدن که سو بشن چون پليس دانشگاه بوده و طبيعتاً طرف این آقای مصطفی طباطبائی نژاد را نخواهند گرفت....
من می رم الان به این گروه های فلسطينی-اسرائيلی دانشگاه ایميل بزنم که پدر اینها را با ایميل و تلفن در بياورند.

یاد اون سال‌های سیاه انداختی منو
چقدر داد زدیم
اما توی باد گم شد

Blogger مهدی گفت:
زنگ زدن به پلیس آنقدرها بدرد نمی‌خورد چون آنها خودشان می‌دانند چکار کرده‌اند.دیگر اینکه استفاده از ابزار شوک الکتریکی توسط آدمهایی بالاتر از آن افسر پلیس با درجه پایین تصمیمش گرفته می‌شود. در این موارد زنگ زدن به جاهای دیگر مانند مراکز تصمیم گیری همچون رییس دانشگاه و روزنامه ها مفیدتر است.

Blogger مهدی گفت:
این هم شماره خوبی برای زنگ زدن است:
UCLA Office of Media Relations
(310) 825-2585

Anonymous رها گفت:
مهدی جان مرسی از توجه و راهنمایی ات، اما نمی شه. اون یکی هم که گذاشته بودم پرید. می شه لطفا نشانی ای میلت رو بهم بدی؟ نوشتن این مطالب پیش پا افتاده توی این کامنت دونی،اون هم با این موضوع مهم و جنجالی، من رو دچار عذاب وجدان می کنه!!!

Anonymous Anonymous گفت:
جرمش این نبوده که کارت نداشته. اون موضوع دیگه ربطی به پلیس نداشته. بعد از ۱۱ رندوم چک می‌کنن کسی بدون کارت نباشه. شهود گزارش می‌دن طرف در پاسخ گفته کارت دارم اما نشون نمی‌دم. بعد هم نشسته تا پلیس بیاد. از این‌جا جرمش مقاومت در مقابل پلیس هستش. من نمی‌دونم در دستورالعمل‌شون چی هست، شاید شوک دادن هم باشه. برای همین ما نباید موضوع رو محدود به ملیت طرف و این مسائل کنیم. باید کاری کرد که اگر دستور دارن این کار رو کنن دستور عوض بشه و اگه ندارن مجازات بشن.

Anonymous سایه گفت:
این فیلم فاجعه بود.
راه دیگری برای اعتراض هست؟ غیر از ایمیل و تلفن؟ واقعا به من این حس منتقل شد که هیجده تیر است و با انصار طرف شده ایم!!!

Anonymous roozbeh گفت:
Mehdi,
Thank you for sharing this. This was brutal and and i am still shivering after watched the whole 6 minutes. I think this matter has to be pursued legally. Poor guy!
Having said that, I don't think there is such a strong case against University Police. Here is why:
The officer told the guy "stand up!" at least 30 times! Now, I agree that the guy was pissed, tired, violated, humiliated and as a result was not in the right state of mind to recognize that resisting order is causing him more trouble. But still, police was doing what it was supposed to do. I don't think (I might be wrong) that they have code for how aggressive/offensive they act or if they are not allowed to threaten people (for example at the end of the tape the officer threatens one guy saying:"move over there or you'll be tazed,too!" I don think they have a code that prohibits them from saying this!) Keep in mind that police had no proof that this guy was student. So officers did not fill obliged to threat as a student (I am only saying this because you said in the post: "they cannot do this to an student!")
There is case, however, for mishandling and mismanagement by police officers and turn such a simple incident (I don't know how it started) into a 'cop show'! So I think the most that can happen is that this publicity is annoying for police and the officers will be yelled at by their boss and are asked to handle these incidents more quietly in the future. nothing more than that.
I will be happy to be proven wrong!
Another thing that can happen is that this incident makes university community launch a campaign against use of tzaer on campus. I cannot predict how successful that campaign would be.
Again, I am as disgusted, terrified, violated and angry as you and perhaps all the readers are from seeing this. I am just try to play devil's advocate and bring other perspective to the table. This way we have better understading of what we want to do about it and what can be done

Blogger مهدی گفت:
در جواب annonymous,
احتمال دارد که پلیس بخاطر قیافه خاورمیانه‌ای این دانشجو به او گیر نداده‌است. ولی من بقدر شما مطمئن نیستم. تاجایی که در خبرها هست این فرد نشسته بود و داشته با کامپیوترش کار می‌کرده است. من هیچ وقت ندیده ام که از کسی در کتابخانه دانشگاه کارت بخواهند (مگر اینکه دم در این را بخواهند).
تازه این فرد داشته کتابخانه را ترک می‌کرده و اصلا پلیس لازم نبوده این برخورد را بکند. شوک الکتریکی می‌تواند منجر به مرگ شود. پلیس تنها باید در موارد خیلی خطرناک از آن استفاده کند.

در این موارد پلیس مقصر است ولی بیشتر از آن سیاستمدارهایی که دست پلیس را باز می‌گذارند و همینطور فضای پلیسی و رعب در کشور بوجود می‌آورد.

Blogger مهدی گفت:
Roozbeh jan,

امکان اینکه این فرد بتواند بایستد اصلا وجود نداشته با توجه به مقدار شوکی که این سلاح به او وارد کرده بوده است. تازه پلیس می‌توانست او را حمل کند ببرد دیگر چه نیازی به شوک داشت.

با روح نوشته‌ات مشکل دارم. در این موارد ما به چیزی که نیاز نداریم devil's advocate هاست.

این نوع روحیه توان عمل جمعی را تضعیف می‌کند. من هم می‌دانم که در این ماجرا این دانشجو هم خالی از خطا نبوده‌است و شاید دانشجو بودنش یا خاورمیانه‌ای بودنش برای پلیس خیلی روشن نبوده است. ولی باورکن من در این یکی دوساله بقدری مورد تبعیض برعلیه ایرانیان شنیده‌ام که دیگر می‌دانم در ۹۰ درصد موارد خاورمیانه‌ای بودن یا مسلمان بودن طرف نوعی دخیل است. خیلی بعید می‌دانم که پلیس در این مورد با یک موبور آمریکایی همین رفتار را می‌کرد. تنها کاری که می‌شود کرد اول اعتراض کرد تا حداقل بدلیل اعتراض من و شما جزییات ماجرا روشن شود. اگر من و شما از هما ن اول شک مان غالب شود و هیچ کاری نکنیم مطمئن باشید که این نوع ماجراها ماستمالی می‌شود .

حداقل کاری که می‌توانید بکنید این است که به دفتر رییس دانشگاه UCLA زنگ بزنید و بگویید که نسبت به این ماجرا حساسید و انتظار بررسی کامل ماجرا را دارید.

Anonymous roozbeh گفت:
Mehdi,
I agree with you. I, too, find it hard to imagine that this would have happened to a Caucasian dude or a blond chick.

Blogger Sibil گفت:
I am honestly amazed at the Iranian community in the U.S’s love for the system. Baba what do you think the law is? It is the Patriot Act and because “we” did not do enough to stop the Bush Administration, It is now “our” nightmare. Do you wanna assimilate in this system…good for you, do! But do not undermine a case of police brutality against a human being by being a system’s apologist!
The man is being electrically shocked. A weapon, a torturous weapon is being used against him. You have obviously never been electrically shocked by a gun to know how it affects your body. Read this document:
From:
http://www.brad.ac.uk/acad/nlw/research_reports/docs/BNLWRP_electricalweapons_Opinion_Jan06.pdf

A report from Amnesty International in 2004 found evidence that “…far from being used to avoid lethal force, many US police agencies are deploying Tasers as a routine force option to subdue non-compliant or disturbed individuals who do not pose a serious danger to themselves or others.” In other words, the Taser has suffered from mission creep. It is not merely employed against dangerous individuals where the alternative is lethal force, but also against school children, mentally ill individuals, people in handcuffs or other restraints, and people passively resisting or simply arguing with the police. In an increasing number of cases it has become a compliance tool for police officers rather than a weapon used to prevent injury or death caused by use of other means.

Anonymous خورشید گفت:
عجب افتضاحیه. دقیقا من رو یاد پلیس ایران انداخت و بلاهایی که به سر دانشجوها تو ایران آوردن. حالا من یه سوال دارم. اگه این طرف داشته با کامپیوتر دانشگاه کار می کرده، یعنی یوزر پسورد دانشگاه رو داشته، و یعنی دانشجو بوده دیگه، وگرنه چطوری می تونسته از کامپیوتر استفاده کنه؟ پس اینکه پلیس نمی دونسته این دانشجو هست به نظر من زر مفته. من هم سعی می کنم زنگ بزنم. ولی کاشکی گروه های حقوق بشری دانشگاه های دیگه آمریکا هم اعتراض کنن. من امشب به گروه خودمون ایمیل می زنم.

Anonymous Anonymous گفت:
به هر حال اون پلیس رو مسوول کتابخونه صدا کرده اون هم به این دلیل که کارتش ور نشون نداده. پلیس هم چند بار ازش خواست که مقاومت نکنه و پاشه. اینو دیگه همه میدونند که اینجور جاها اگه مقاومت کنی پلیس خشن برخورد میکنه و از شوک استفاده میکنه. فکر کنم جز مواردی که به همه میگند چطور با پلیس مواجه بشید و مقاومت نکنید
پلیس کار نداره طرف دانشجو هست یا نه یا پسورد داره یا نه. ضمنن کامپیوترهای کتابخونه ها معمولا پسورد ندارند :)
به پلیس هم این چیزها مربوط نمیشه مقاومت یعنی شوک

Blogger Yasin گفت:
مقاومت یعنی شوک! چقدر این بابا خوشه

Blogger مهدی گفت:
anonymous,
این چیزها همیشه برای بقیه اتفاق نمی‌افتد. آدمی مثل شما هم ممکن است کاملا بی‌دلیل گیرپلیس بیافتد و برای تفریحشان یک مقداری ناچیزی ولتاژ به شما وارد کنند. فکر کنم آن موقع می‌فهمید که لزوما شوک با مقاومت یا بخاطر مقاومت نیست.

Anonymous خورشید گفت:
کامپیوتر کتابخونه های دانشگاه ما پسورد داره، فکر کرم مال همه جا داره! (که به نظر من منطقی تر می رسه!) اما برام جالبه که چقدر راحت می شه ماجرای اینکه طرف مقاومت کرده دربرابر پلیس رو توجیهی دونست برای خشونت پلیس و استفاده از شک الکتریکی. فکر نکنم کسی به اون دانشجو آفرین بگه برای مقاومت در برابر پلیس که هرکسی صابون پلیس آمریکا به تنش خورده باشه می دونه که عاقلانه ترین راه اینه که عین گوسفند باشی در برابر پلیس. اما اینکه پلیس هم حق قانونی داشته باشه که دریک همچین مورد ساده ای از شک الکتریکی چندین بار استفاده کنه، با توجه به اینکه محل واقعه "کتابخونه یک دانشگاه" بوده محض رضای خدا، واقعا شرم آوره. گاهی با خوندن بعضی نظرها فکر می کنم این صفر و یک های کامپیوتر ها مخ مارو هم تبدیل به صفر و یک کرده!! هیچی خطرناک تر از این نیست که برای خشونت توجیح بیاریم.

Anonymous sara گفت:
میل زدم

Anonymous roozbeh گفت:
Khorshid and Sibil
Calm down! I am not defending Police's action. Nor am I justifying it or blaming the poor student for what happened. I just tried to point out to the kind of counter-argument that you are going to hear from Police, that's all.

Anonymous pooyan گفت:
باید یک راه پیمایی یا تظاهرات سکوت برگذار کرد.
من لینک دادم
http://pnvp.com/weblog/archives/115

Anonymous shirin گفت:
salam
vahshatnak bood.
ama vahashatnak tar ke kare ino a police ya ansare hezoblahe iran moghayese mikonid.
akhe azize man in bache rafte bood to daneshgah ba internet kar kone va hich kare siasi dar kar naboode
ama ooni ke to daneshgahe polytechnic kotak khord motaghebe ye neshaste siasi bood.
bebin man nemikham az ansare hezbolah defa konam ke aslan defa nadaran,ama vaghti yeki kare siasi mikone pie in chizaram be tanesh mimale ama ye daneshjooye bakht bargashte ke rafte ba computer kar kone chi?

Anonymous Anonymous گفت:
akhe Sibil...mage US keshvareteh, beto cherabti dareh? khoshet nemiad herri,, pato nazar oonja. mage majbooret kardan?!

kheili ensan doosti boro be police iran zang bezan ke keshvareteh va oonja dado ghal kon..in saliteh baziaro ro dar nayar...

Blogger BA}{AR گفت:
آن روز سخنرانی دکتر سروش و زندانی شدن مان در دانشگاه را خوب به یادم آوردی....

Anonymous خورشید گفت:
Roozbeh, I got your point and my comment wasn't addressing you.

Anonymous Anonymous گفت:
ببين، چون اين قضيه راه افتاده و تو هم ملت رو شير کردی، بذار من چندتا توصيه کنم.

اولا" که آقا مصطفی شاگرد يکی از دوستان منه توی دانشگاه. من چندتا نکته درآوردم که خواننده هات و هرکسی توی اين کاره بدنيست بهش توجه کنند.

قضيه اينکه چنددفعه از کارت نشون دادن سرباز زده ساختگيه. مامور اولی که مامور کتابخونه بوده فقط دو دفعه ازش سوال کرده و اون هم جواب داده که کارتش رو جا گذاشته و الان وسط يک کاريه و سريع تمومش می کنه و می ره. در اين بين، ماموره بی حوصلگی می کنه و می ره دنبال پليس که مصطفی کيفش رو می بنده و آماده می شه که راه بيفته و بره. داشته از پله های لب می رفته پايين که پليس مياد و بازوش رو می گيره و اون هم داد می زنه که ولم کن. اما پليس هلش می ده به طرف زمين و بقيه اش هم که توی ويديو هست.

اولن بايد اين دروغ پليس که اين چندبار از نشون دادن کارت سرباز زده رو روکرد. اصلا" اين کار رو نکرده. توی فيلم هم چندبار بعد از اينکه بهش دستبند زدند می گه که: من داشتم می رفتم که شما نگهم داشتيد.

اصلا" هم قبل از اين قضايا نه صداش رو بلند کرده بوده نه هيچ کاری خارج از قاعده کرده بوده.

بعد، فايده نداره به پليس زنگ بزنيد. زنگ بزنيد به دفتر رئيس و دفتر مسئول مسائل دانشجويان (Student's Affairs) و اگر خواستيد روزنامه ها. اما به نظر من مهمه که تاکيد کنید که قضیه اینکه چندبار ازش خواسته اند که کارت نشون بده ساختگيه و فقط برای اينکه رفتار پلیس رو تعديل کنند ساخته شده و اصلا" اينطور نبوده. بعد هم روی اين موضوع که اولين کسی که در مورد رفتار پليس شکايت کرد و ازشون اسم و شماره علامتشون رو خواست، يکی از مسئولين کتابخونه و کسی بود که پشت دکه اتاق کامپيوتر ايستاده بود و همه چيز جلوی چشماش اتفاق افتاد (من ازش سوال کردم و گفت پليسه بهش گفته که اسم و شماره اش ربطی به اون نداره). دختره گفته اما چرا با اين اينجوری رفتار می کنيد؟ ولش کنيد که بره، اما پليس به جاش به پسره دستبند زده.

در ایران علرغم اینکه جمعه است و همه جا تعطیل در عین حال شرح ماوقع و آدرس ویدئو را برای بسیاری از سازمان ها خبرگزاری ها و سایت ها فکس کردم. فکر می کنم نباید از کنار این فاجعه بسادگی گذشت. منتشر کننده ویدئو در یوتیوب در یکی از کامنت ها گفته که اگر دانشجوی مذکور آمریکایی آفریقایی یا چینی بود تا حالا در دانشگاه آشوب بپا می شد اما چون ایرانی بوده رسانه ها هم توجه چندانی نکردن. البته من با فضای آمریکا چندان آشنا نیستم.
اگر پلیس شوک دادن را هم بتونه توجیه کنه ( اون هم برای 5 بار) به هیچ عنوان نمی تونه وادار کردن فرد به بلند شدن و راه رفتن را توجیه کنه بدیهیه که هدف این دستگاه فلج کردن فرد برای چند دقیقه است. این مصداق عینی شکنجه است.
موفق باشید.

Anonymous امید گفت:
لطفا از این ماجرای شرم آور بول نگیرین و برای سیست بازیهاتون سو استفاده نکنین.
این مساله هیچ ربطی به patriot act
و اینها نداره. درست یا غلط قانونی هست که از مردم کارت شناسایی بخوان. این مشکل این فاجعه نیست بیخود مساله اصلی رو منحرف نکنین.
مساله اینه که یه مشت پلیس عوضی که حق نداشتن همچین غلطی بکنن با عرض معذرا گه زیادی خوردن و از قدرتشون به طرز تهوع أوری سو استفاده کردن.
باید هم جلوشون ایستاد و رس اشون را کشید تا دیگر همچین غلطی نکنند.
باید به عنوان یک community
عرضه داشته باشیم حق این چندتا عوضی رو کف دستشون بذاریم بدون این شاخ و برگ دادن های مهمل جهت دار و بودار به سیاست و سیاستمدارها و اینها.
والسلام

Anonymous Anonymous گفت:
There is a debate on the Guardian website here about it.

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/dan_glaister/2006/11/candid_cameras.html

I left a comment. And I think it’s important we all leave comment condemning it.

Anonymous Anonymous گفت:
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/dan_glaister/2006/11/candid_cameras.html

Anonymous Anonymous گفت:
I don’t know why the whole URL isn’t coming up but it’s on

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/index.html
and the article is:
Candid cameras
Dan Glaister Nov 16 06, 11:47pm: The LAPD is finding out the hard way that police brutality and YouTube don't mix.

Anonymous Anonymous گفت:
فرضا که اصلا این پلیس رو ببرند دادگاه و بگن که چرا؟و اگر اوون بگه با با با شما ایرانیها تو مملکت خودتون ازین بدتر می کنن حالا اومدین اینور دنیا روتون هم زیاده؟اوون وقت چی

Anonymous م.پ. گفت:
با با تو دیگه کی هستی چون در ایران نقض حقوق بشر هست پی در خارج از ایران دهن هر ایرانی رو سرویس کنن بعد هم بگن تو مملکت خودتون چنین و چنانه شما هرچه سریعتر برای دریافت شوک به پلیس آمریکا معرفی کن!

Anonymous Rouzbeh T گفت:
As we are finding the reasons that the police have to taser the guy, the American students all over the place are ripping their ass off because their own statute is in stake. Our own community amazes me!

Blogger Reza گفت:
The Cop said: (....if you don't stand up, I'll tase you again...) it means torture, police my use taser to stop someone, but not as a form of punishment. I emailed the chancellor of UCLA. but most probably he won't do anything about that shit. Mostafa should sue their ass.

Blogger Reza گفت:
The Cop said: (....if you don't stand up, I'll tase you again...) it means torture, police my use taser to stop someone, but not as a form of punishment. I emailed the chancellor of UCLA. but most probably he won't do anything about that shit. Mostafa should sue their ass.

Anonymous Anonymous گفت:
We stone people to death in IRAN.
Why we are not reacting to that but are very sensitive because this is done by American polic officer. Wright or wrong it sis not abig deal.

Anonymous Anonymous گفت:
Benazare man in kar aslan tojih amiz naboode va hadeaghal chizi ke ma mitoonim begirim estefaye rasmie mamoore police hastesh. In haghe mast bayad dast dar daste ham bedim ta dige joloye in amale vahshiane gerefte beshe. In kar benazare man janbeye racisti dashte va polici ke natoone hese nejad parastisho hefz kone bedarde laye jerz mikhore.

Anonymous پسر فهمیده گفت:
خیلی ناراحت‌کننده بود. رفتار پلیس اصلن متناسب با عمل دانشجو نبود.

Anonymous Kamangir گفت:
Please see this: http://www.petitiononline.com/uclaucpd/petition.html

Anonymous Anonymous گفت:
ُچه غم انگیز و نفرت انگیز! متاسفم که تفاوت انسانها در سفاکی روز به روز کمتر میشه. متاسفم که دنیای مارو سیاستمدارانی رقم میزنند که حرمت انسانیت را نمیشناسند. متاسفم که شرق و غرب بسیار شبیه همند! متاسفم که مدینه فاضله ای وجود ندارد!

Anonymous avang گفت:
Hi, American police forces are notorious for being brutual animals, no doubt. But I think This guy paying the the hard way for his Shear stupidity.

Anonymous Anonymous گفت:
kaash mitoonestiim to keshvare khodemoon ba eftekhaar zendegi konim,pishe maman babahamoon....marg baad bar baeso banie in darbedari

Anonymous roozbeh گفت:
I am stunned by couple of these anonymous comments!
I completely understand (and do not aprove or agree) with an argument based on the fact that police officers were behaving within their code of conduct and rule of engagement. Again, I think this argument is silly and inhumane and I do not agree with it, but understand it.
What I don't understand is how a person can at same time make a judgment about the officers conduct and call it unlawful and brutal and at same time justify that act because in some other corner of the world "people are stoned to death"!! This is most stupid and ignorant argument that I have ever heard or read!

Blogger Shabnam گفت:
I agree with Roozbeh...
1. I think the fact that the same act or worse happens in Iran doesn't mean that it should happen in US or anyhere else in the free world.
2. If you have concenrns about who this Irnian-American was treated, doesn't mean you are indifferent about Sangsar or any other issues in Iran... It just means taht you are concenrned about human rights. Full stop.
3. The Iranian boy was not armed, and if he was or was not a student, Iranian or not, he should no have been treated like that. So the fact that they do not do it to a blond girl or white dude, should not make any difference in our judgment about this. If this man was blond, even if it would have happened to him in the same way, which we cannot confirm it either way, it would have been as bad. Please let go of your patriotic hourses... It is 21st century for God's sake.
4. In US this is a single incident that can be followed by law and the UCLA PD could and I hope should pay dearly for it. In Iran, this incident and worse can happen and noone can say a word. No one can follow it up and noone can do anything. That is the BIG difference. (This is for people who were comparing Iran's incident with this one). Hajarian was shot in the day light, and killer saw how many days in jail?

To sum up: we do not need to ocmpare it to Iran to say it is bad. It is bad on its own. We do not need to say the boy was Iranian so its bad, it was bad on its own. If we are to compare with Iran, people, let;s be fair.

Anonymous Anonymous گفت:
برخورد پليس به هیچ وجه قابل توجیه نیست. اما تو این ایران خودمون هم اگه انتظامات دانشگاه کارت رو بخواد باید نشونش داد یا اگه همراهمون نباشه باید یه جوری با گفتن اسم استاد یا شماره اتاق یا هر مدرک دیگه ای اعتمادشون رو جلب کرد. حالا اگه به جاش کولی بازی!در بیاریم خوب چوب تو آستینمون میکنن!!! مجید

Anonymous Anonymous گفت:
واقعا چنین شدت برخوردی در صورتی که طرف امریکایی می بود صورت میگرفت؟فکر نکنم تنها با تماس وایمیل
بشه کاری کرد
بهتره هر کدوممون مستقلاباانجمنهای دانشکده مون بیانیه بدیم وبرای دفاع از حقوق خودمون به این واکنش بی تناسب اعتراض کنیم

Blogger Shabnam گفت:
For the anonymous...

Yes, it is possible that if the student was white they could have seen the same treatment as well.

I give you an example: about a year ago there was a concert of Guns n' Roses here in Vancouver. It got canceled, and the stupid fans strated to trash the place and break windows... So of course they got what they deserved, which was an arrest.

Now, this guy who was not a fan, who was just passing by, was walking in the street. The police orders him to go to the other side of the street. The guy wants to be smart and says no, why should I cross the street! He was not there to break windows or even go the concert. He was not even in the same age group or whatever. He was white as well, so you know! Anyhow, he was beaten so badly, that he lost all of his teeth, and broke a rib or two.

Now if he was an Iranian or Arab, I am sure you all would have shouted loud racism... But as you see, the white police, beating the white middeage man, just means plain crazy. Not racist, but crazy... The end was that the police was sues, and rightly so. The man should not have argued, but he should not have been beaten for arguing. So the man wins. The police should have explained why they are doing what they are doing, and the man may have listened! Nobosy would get sued and noone would have lost their teeth.

So let's take a deep breath and think again. Who is willing to tell me for sure hat what happened at UCLA was racism for sure? I am not syaing it was not, but I am saying not everything is related to racism... In Iran students are being beaten often is it the crazy people who beat them? Or is it the racist people who beat them?

Anyway, I think this is getting far from the point, I just wanted to say that one cannot assume racism all the time for any injustice.

Anonymous Student گفت:
Please just ask them this simple quetion : http://iranian-tased-at-ucla.blogspot.com/

Anonymous Anonymous گفت:
I am a Criminal Justice student. I have already e-mailed this clip to couple of my professors to review and get feed back. I think Mostafa can sue the UCLA police. There was absolutely no need for use of force. I have seen cases where the criminals refuse to get out of their cars and they don't get tasered.

Anonymous Anonymous گفت:
Please help in writing an article in wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powell_Library_Incident

Anonymous پرهام گفت:
من نظراتم رو در وبلاگ
http://manintexas.persianblog.com
دادم و اینجا نمی نویسم
اما به طور خیلی ساده می گم انقدر خوش خیال نباشیم

مثل طرف پسورد داشته پس حتما معلومه که دانشجو بوده!!!
ارتباطش رو نفهمیدم

Anonymous afra گفت:
من هم براشون ای میل زدم.در هر صورت وحشیگریه.حالا هر کی میخواد باشه.

Anonymous Anonymous گفت:
Do you know that Mostafa has a peace maker in his heart?

Anonymous باران گفت:
سلام
اون سال رو به خوبي يادمه همسر من كه شريفي هم هست اون روز اساسي كتك خورد و بعد هم دستگير و بازداشتگاه و آب خنك و...
ولي الان مدتهاست كه كار سياسي جدي نميكند ميگويد هزينه اش خيلي سنگين است به همه كس آدم كار دارند و رحم نميكنند

Anonymous باران گفت:
واي خيلي متاسف شدم الان فيلم رو با صدا ديدم هيچ توجيهي نداره واقعا فريادهاي مصطفي زجر آور بود و STAND UP هاي اون عوضي بدتر

Anonymous Anonymous گفت:
I meant pacemaker.

Anonymous Anonymous گفت:
mehdi jan man kheyli moteassefam hastam baraye shoma,ma khodam yek irani amricayi hastam va fekr mikonam ke shomaha aslan motevajjehe ghazie nistid,va fekr mikonam ke doustani ke in ghazia ro be hijda tir tashbih kardan va az oon be onvane faje-e yad kardan bayad motevajeh bashan ke tarafe kar LAPD boode oona ham ba kasi shookhi nadaran irani bashe ya amricayi vaghti migan id card. dige jaye harf nemimoone ke bekhay mozakhraf begi ke shoma az ghodratetoon folan mikoni...taze agar ham in etefagh too daneshgahe iran oftade bood vahede basije daneshgah choob too astine aghayr tabatabayi mikard shok ke sahle

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